
J.M.
Today, basically, it’s a theme show about laughter, because I think we don’t laugh enough. And I’m not the only one who’s convinced of that. Sometimes, I’m in a restaurant with friends, and we start laughing, and I hear myself go, “Rich my God! We should laugh out loud more often. Often when we’re on the air with Caroline Proulx, we’re laughing, but we’re laughing. Now I’m getting in the car. I’m still laughing! Because I’m laughing and I say to myself, it’s true that it releases endorphins, which go into the brain and create happiness. In fact, it’s the happiness hormone. And then it was at the Salon du Livre, a year ago, to present one of my books.
There was this author I really like. Linda Leclerc, yoga of laughter, and I said to myself What an extraordinary phenomenon! But hello Linda,
L.L.
Hello
J.M.
you are the co-author. Do people take you seriously when you say that laughter is something you’ve even said in your own life? You want to laugh for at least thirty-five to forty minutes a day, but it’s not always possible, and then one day you have a major car accident.
And you’re saying, I’ve got to take charge of my life. I have to laugh. I have to have fun because otherwise it’s going to go by too fast and I might die before then.
L.L.
But then I discovered that I’d stopped laughing. A bit like you, what you’re saying… bursts of laughter. We all laugh a little. But good, free laughter that feels good, there was more of it. That was the day I said to myself. I’ve got to do something about this. That’s when I discovered laughter yoga.
J.M.
It’s been around for twenty years elsewhere. You’ve been working on it here in Quebec for over 10 years. Yes, what does that mean?
Because the image you get when you do yoga isn’t laughter?
LL.
No,
JM
Because when I do yoga
LL
It’s serious, it’s zen. It’s quiet
JM
in the funny position, sometimes, when you’re good at it – I’m not. that’s true, but how do you get a laugh out of yoga?
LL
But that’s what laughter yoga is called, because we combine yogic breathing with laughter exercises.
So that’s why. The yoga part is that it comes from India, and in India, yoga is taken very seriously. So when we do yoga exercises, our breathing is very, very important. Stretching,
JM
That’s the question.
LL
But you breathe a lot when you laugh. yes, you can breathe, you breathe a lot when you laugh because when you’re stressed, I could hear you all a bit – it’s gogogo, you don’t breathe at that moment, you stop breathing,
JM
We stop breathing at 2 minutes to 10. Well, breathing, no, but it’s true, it’s true that we often forget what’s essential. Sometimes I see an acupuncturist. He always says. The most important thing is to breathe.
LL
Yes, because we can’t live without breathing. And when we laugh, that’s exactly what we’re doing HAHAHAHA! so our inspiration really changes
JM
and it’s contagious, Linda, because it’s what your operation is all about. As I was saying earlier, you have to be taken seriously, it takes time, do we agree?
Yes, because people think it’s all a bit of fun, no pun intended,
LL
What we don’t realize is just how beneficial laughter is to our physical health, but to our mental health too,
JM
is that it creates oxygen. It opens up all the possibilities.
LL
All our physical systems are activated. The cardiac system, the respiratory system, the lymphatic system, even the lymph starts to circulate more rapidly, our digestive system, because it massages the internal organs… the parasympathetic working. It’s really extraordinary what happens in our bodies when we laugh.
JM
Then I hear Linda Leclerc, author of the book Laughter Yoga. I’m sorry, I’m hearing questions, people telling me right now that there’s nothing funny about me. I’m going through cancer right now, I’m a single parent. I’m picking up my kid tonight, I’m in traffic eighteen hours a week and I can count a lot of them, very hard to laugh. La
LL
but I too have to deal with difficult things. But what I do is use the exercise of laughter to enable me, firstly, to put some distance between myself and what’s going on, to play things down and keep breathing. Because life goes on, even if things happen to us. Earlier, I heard Mike Ward say in his interview Some people find it funny. Some people don’t find it funny. That’s because it’s the sense of humour that makes this funny to me, but not to others. But in laughter yoga, we don’t use our sense of humour. We do it like a physical exercise. In fact, it’s almost like a sport. When you practice stationary cycling, you don’t get anywhere with it.
JM
When you look at this book, you get a better understanding of what you’re talking about, because there’s a way of doing things. You understand it very well at the end of the book, when you’ve finished it, you find it fascinating. Finally, it’s accessible to me,
LL
Yes, because it’s accessible to everyone, even people who are bedridden, people with disabilities, whatever, whatever is going on in our lives.
We can use laughter to free ourselves, to free our worries, to make ourselves feel better, to be better company too because I’m just now, I’m walking and I realized that I was hahahaha!
JM
Is that a good laugh?
LL
I start laughing, then all of a sudden it’s (real laughter). Then the people I pass look at me, I see that so people looked at me and returned my smile,
JM
but there’s also laughter, Linda Leclerc, co-author of the book, There’s also nervous laughter. And when you start laughing, your body is indisposed. We laugh. In fact, I’m not sure I feel like laughing. I don’t understand, I’m laughing right now. How do you get the thing to expand a little?
LL
I think we just decided to do it. Some days my laughter is more forced than others. But that’s okay! My body doesn’t know the difference between me laughing for real or pretending it’s really funny. So it’s all laughter. Is that what you’re saying? I injured myself recently and the physio was working on something. I burst out laughing, but he says, “It’s the first time I’ve seen someone laugh rather than cry,” but that was my reflex. I wanted to breathe, I wanted to release my fright, my pain. I started laughing.
JM
How do you tell the difference between a real laugh and a giggle?
LL
Does it matter? (laughs)
JM
how long should I laugh every day?
LL
They say you should laugh twelve to fifteen minutes a day. We’ll see all the benefits – at least. If you’re already laughing for three to five minutes, that’s great,
JM
I’m asking you questions that are asked all the time. Do you feel a difference in your life since you stopped laughing?
LL
Ah, completely. Yes, completely. I feel I’m better company, I don’t stay angry as long. Things affect me, but I’m not as much a prisoner of that as I used to be. I just have more fun in life in general, I laugh more than I used to.
JM
One thing’s for sure. May 3 was World Laughter Day. Did you laugh? Three and a quarter minutes to go?
LL
Ah yes, we certainly laughed for almost an hour.
JM
because you’re doing workshops with people and that’s what’s interesting. You can get all the information on the blog too, yoga du rire, dot com. And that’s where you can get a lot of information. Because there are lots of questions you’re constantly asked. We can follow your activities, and then sign up because it’s become an important thing in Quebec over the last ten years.
LL
We train people. We train animators, teachers, there are all kinds of tools. We need them, especially now. Why shouldn’t we use them? It’s free when you do.
JM
Of course, it’s a bit difficult to say “austerity” and “laughter” in the same sentence.
LL
Well austeriiiiii (laughs)
JM
Corinne as her surname is known?
LL
Corinne Cosseron, my French colleague
JM
and Linda. That’s why Linda Leclerc, le Yoga du rire came to Guy Trédaniel éditeur.
Thank you very much, because it’s very special because tomorrow, Sunday at 7:30 p.m., is the Olivier gala, a tribute to these great local comedians. Thank you Linda,
LL
thank you very much,
JM
thank you.